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...why is it that whenever someone raises objections to Gokuu x anyone being equivalent to paedophilia or child pron a thousand fen rejoinder with, "No, it's not! He's over 500 years old!"
To which, about half the time, the OP replies, "Oh, I didn't know/realise/remember that! I guess it's okay then" with the optional "But I still don't like it" added to taste.
This response creeps me out, because it gives physical age precedence over emotional maturity. "Oh, you've reached majority? Well then, I'm sure you'll have no problems handling this..."
Granted, the law assumes the above as well, and it's only fanfic, but still.
これで以上です。
To which, about half the time, the OP replies, "Oh, I didn't know/realise/remember that! I guess it's okay then" with the optional "But I still don't like it" added to taste.
This response creeps me out, because it gives physical age precedence over emotional maturity. "Oh, you've reached majority? Well then, I'm sure you'll have no problems handling this..."
Granted, the law assumes the above as well, and it's only fanfic, but still.
これで以上です。
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The corollary is that a Ron/Harry fic where they're fifteen is worry-free where I live and underage squick two hours away on the other side of the border.
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Of course, the thing I find funny on the whole is the idea that modern (American) legal codes apply to fiction occurring at a wizarding school, or centuries ago in pseudo-China. You'd think with all the canon sticklerism that goes on that this would eventually occur to more people, but apparently not.
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But the fact that something squicks people because it's illegal cnofuses me totally...
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It's ironic that the Gokuu Is Too Young! crowd apparently has no problems with characters like Sanzou or Kougaiji doing the nasty; although they're older, their capital-I Issues leave them less fit for the deed than Gokuu's sunny optimism.
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I actually ranted about the whole thing on my journal a while back, and someone compared Goku to a child with Down's syndrome and boy am I glad I friendlocked the rant and have a not-wanky friendslist, oh yes I am.
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Well, that's...something, certainly. What, I'm not sure. I must have missed the Intranets memo where the adolescence=mental handicap bit was spelled out.
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In the interest of full disclosure, I should probably add that my parents would likely agree with this statement on some level;) But I doubt that's what your OP intended by her original statement.
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So using the classical 'if A=B and B=C then A=C' argument, you=immature; adolescents=immature, adolescence=Downs Syndrome...she was really just suggesting that you get the help you need, right?
...Right?
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I wasn't sure why Goku (and some other techincally-legal anime characters, come to that) still makes me uncomfortable, but you put your finger right on it. Absolutely!
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Along the same line, most pairing fics with Gokuu will carefully stipulate that he's gotten taller. It's an additional, similar item on the squick checklist. Male characters 5'5" and under are viewed as off-limits, regardless of age, unless they undergo a magic fanfic height adjustment.
I think of this as a "consensus squick." It tends to settle itself upon some pairings, accompanied by an assumption that everyone "normal" must be squicked as well and demands that those who aren't justify their utterly pervy tastes somehow. And, as a general rule, any character who is not overbrimming with neuroses is considered to be "emotionally immature." Poor Pollyanna does not angst; therefore, she cannot be viewed as an adult.
Gokuu x Everyone makes me happy. Though I s'pose it was considerate of Minekura to add the "500 going on 18" criterion, I don't personally regard it some sort of pairing necessity. I'd feel the same way if it were 500 going on 12.
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Eh. Not really in the mood to dust off any of the usual responses here. Just take 'em as a given.
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Short plus /adolescent behaviour/ is cultural shorthand for 'too young.' FMA's Ed (so usefully appearing in that nearby icon) is not merely short, isn't he canonically 15 or something? But no problem by me with him and sex. What that kid has been through has aged him up to the Mustang level by me.
It's not just that until the relatively late Kamisama arc Gokuu comes across as prepubescent and not even thinking about sex. (His only physical need is hunger. Ahh- sublimation, kanaa?)) It's the partner. Gokuu x Lirin is no sweat by me. Gokuu with any of the older guys and-especially-Sanzou gets me twitchy, and precisely because they have Issues out the wazoo. Who's going to be looking out for the emotional needs of the little guy there?
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Goku x Lirin are too similar for my tastes. And I don't think early Goku thinks about sex either-- it's his maturing through the series that makes me think he'll be ready someday. (I have no problem with people thinking otherwise, though!)
I've always thought Goku sublimated through sex and Sanzo through random acts of violence...(I told that to someone and they said "Sanzo must have the sex drive of a GOD." Hee!)
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Which is why it would be really interesting (not to mention refreshing) to see a fic dealing with how Gokuu and Sanzou having a relationship did not work. Because twhatever emotional baggage those four hoist onto one another's backs, they're still headed west, and there's a lot that could be done with that plotline and some patience.
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...besides the fact that /writing/ that kind of relationship is hijjusly difficult so we use sex as a kind of metaphor for it. But that too is why 939 sex seems gratuitous to me. It doesn't add anything to the already existing bond between Sanzou and Gokuu.
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"Sanzou loves you for who you are. Except you need to be taller, older, and possibly a cutter." Beautiful.
Good point re: neuroses=maturity, and rather a corollary to the strong women=rape survivors trope that pops up with about equal frequency. But then again, emotionally well-adjusted characters with good people skills and charisma seldom make for interesting narrative foci.
As far as worrying about Gokuu's age goes, my book says, who cares? We're talking about someone who, canon is only too eager to point out, is a personification of earth energy; why need human rules apply to him at all.