I dunno. It's very interesting that most fan artists are very opposed to others using their work without permission, while most non-fan artists have little to no problem with it, or assume that it's somehow 'different.' I don't draw fanart myself, but when I see pretty much the entire fan artist demographic assuring fen over and over that yes, it is stealing and similar to plagiarism of stories and so forth, then I have to assume that it is, because I'm hearing it from the horses' mouths.
I have no problems with people archiving my stories without permission, as long as my name is attached. But if I found my fics with a different name, or even no name, being traded about willy nilly, I think I'd be pretty upset. I imagine the fanart issue is similar.
You hit the nail on the head with the Japanese artists - their take is 100% make your own art. They've even got a website coalition (http://www6.big.or.jp/~aira/ofp_e.html) for it. That's the English language page. It's especially illuminating to see what they say about Western fen on the Japanese-only page. It may just be a difference in cultural attitudes, but man, it sucks to think that most Japanese fen think those things about us as a whole.
I'm mostly agreed with you on the scanned doujinshi question, because it's possible for dj circles to sell their stuff in the West, and they don't, and because most fen I know will spend exorbitant amounts of money to get hard copies of djs they like. That said, I still think it's wrong to make page layouts or whatever from doujinshi, if only because the creators are so violently opposed to it.
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Date: 2005-04-03 05:21 am (UTC)I have no problems with people archiving my stories without permission, as long as my name is attached. But if I found my fics with a different name, or even no name, being traded about willy nilly, I think I'd be pretty upset. I imagine the fanart issue is similar.
You hit the nail on the head with the Japanese artists - their take is 100% make your own art. They've even got a website coalition (http://www6.big.or.jp/~aira/ofp_e.html) for it. That's the English language page. It's especially illuminating to see what they say about Western fen on the Japanese-only page. It may just be a difference in cultural attitudes, but man, it sucks to think that most Japanese fen think those things about us as a whole.
I'm mostly agreed with you on the scanned doujinshi question, because it's possible for dj circles to sell their stuff in the West, and they don't, and because most fen I know will spend exorbitant amounts of money to get hard copies of djs they like. That said, I still think it's wrong to make page layouts or whatever from doujinshi, if only because the creators are so violently opposed to it.