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Trismegistus ([personal profile] lebateleur) wrote2004-11-01 01:46 am

Anyone up for some Howl's spoilers?

Cut for, well, spoilers.

Or at least spoiler-based speculation. I saw the longform trailer for Howl's at the theater last night, and what my guesses below are based on that. I should also mention that the projectionist was having trouble with the reel, so the picture and sound were not at top quality. That out of the way, onward to some spoilers.

The movie looks as gorgeous as any of Miyazaki's works, but it doesn't look like it's going to have very much to do with either the original or the Japanese version (according to the Japanese friend I was with). If I'm interpreting what I saw correctly, Sophie and Howl are already together at the beginning of the movie, the plot of which involves a quest to return Sophie to her natural form. We can also anticipate some major adjustments to the characters' personalities; the trailer features an extended scene where Sophie's sobbing her heart out in the middle of a field; this struck me as very un-Sophie-ish. Another scene which featured what looked like warfare. At the very least, we can anticipate that a city somewhere is going up in flames.

I'm still struggling with the knowledge that good 'ol Kimutaku is going to voice Howl (Oh who am I kidding. WHY GOD, WHY???), and my friend feels the same way.

"I really like Howl," she told me. "But I can't believe they got that guy to do his voice. It could be a disaster."

As is to be expected, the fact that one of SMAP's finest is voicing the male lead was all over the trailer, but his voice was ever so coyly hidden by VOs every time Howl was talking in the footage, so I can't make any judgment calls on it yet. Incidentally, I will probably start watching SMAPxSMAP this Monday in the vague hope that they'll have some Howl's parody skits, product placements, or tie-ins that might offer more clues about the movie. I'm a fandom tool that way.

The theme song is even sappier than Sen to Chihiro's, and features the requisite soprano singing about 'love' and rainbows and chocolate lollipops. But who knows, it may grow on me (StC's sure did).

Other random observations: didn't see Sophie's sisters anywhere, so I don't know if they'll be making an appearance or not. My friend and I both agree that Howl looks too young for the role, and that the castle, while not either of our castles, is still way cool looking. Calcifer is PERFECT. He was only shown for about half a second, but it was enough to make me and my friend squeal. Oh, and the scarecrow makes an appearance too! And because I can't say it enough, the animation is gorgeous.

So, final verdict? I remain very psyched. Opening night is only twenty days away (or eighteen, if my name gets drawn in the lottery for sneak preview tickets). I'll be a little disappointed if the movie diverges from the book, because I adore the book. But, Miyazaki has never made a movie I haven't adored either, so I'm willing to bet that whatever new plot they cook up is going to be fantastic.

これで以上です。

Rumor

[identity profile] amasugiru.livejournal.com 2004-10-31 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
I heard she only has one sister. I have seen a picture of one of them but I have yet to confirm the rumor above. I also saw the preview. I was going to post about it but is has a sad story to go with it... so maybe I will ;)

But... yeah... the preview looked really fucked up. What was she doing feeding Jabba the Hut?

Re: Rumor

[identity profile] gnine.livejournal.com 2004-10-31 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
What was she doing feeding Jabba the Hut?

Eh?? Mental picture of sohpie...Jabba the hut...in same location...mind...breaking...meep

Though am really excited to see this...wonder how long it'll take to get brought over here...or at least to get released on line

Re: Rumor

[identity profile] lebateleur.livejournal.com 2004-10-31 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, since both Mononoke Hime and Sen to Chihiro were brought over to the US, I think your chances of seeing Howl's are pretty darn good.

Your chances of seeing it subbed (if you are someone who cares about such things) are probably a little less good, but as far as dubs go, MH's was actually pretty good, so there's hope.
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2004-10-31 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
--ehheh, we're both of us sub-snobs of the "scream and beat our breasts if it's in *gasp* English" variety, so seeing it in the theaters is probably out (tho' some art theaters here did screen StC in Japanese, I believe?) [livejournal.com profile] gnine could watch it w/o subs anyway, so maybe if it gets ripped online...ahh, I don't wanna wait to see it, either! :P

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[identity profile] lebateleur.livejournal.com 2004-11-01 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oooh! I'm in good company then. Perhaps I'd be more open to dubs if the English language voice talent wasn't so abysmal, but I doubt it. I like hearing the vocal inflections of the native speakers too much.

Well, I'm sure it'll come out on line, and even if it doesn't, the HK pirates will have dub-free versions available;)

Re: Rumor

[identity profile] gnine.livejournal.com 2004-11-01 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the only way I'd watch dubs is maybe if they started say..hiring broadway singers to voice them...now THEY know how to use their voices to emote...but even so, I like watching anything, anime or other, in its own native language, the way it was originally meant to be so...*shrug*

But at this point in time...Dubs currently KILL me! THEY HURT, they always some how sound as if they're reading the lines, while most seiyuu always sound LIKE the character, they make me beleive what they're saying (screaming in such wonderful ways ;)) is actually going on

Re: Rumor

[identity profile] lebateleur.livejournal.com 2004-11-01 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it just makes no sense to me, because screen actors have no problems emoting well, and often the vocal tracks for television and movies are recorded after the picture itself. So I don't see why dubbing anime should be so difficult.

Agreed about the native language tracks. The only dub I'll ever watch is What's Up Tigerlily, and that's a special case;)

Re: Rumor

[identity profile] gnine.livejournal.com 2004-11-01 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
gnine could watch it w/o subs anyway,
Er...suuuure neesama, SURE, but not if I want to understand all of it :-P

Re: Rumor

[identity profile] lebateleur.livejournal.com 2004-10-31 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I don't know. The thing is, I am 99.9% certain that I am going to like this movie, because I have all the other movies, and I haven't been disappointed yet.

But it may take me some time to move away from the fact that it's not the book before I can enjoy the flick on its own merits. Which is too bad, because if anyone could make a movie of Howl's, it's Miyazaki.

Re: Rumor

[identity profile] fragilistikal.livejournal.com 2004-10-31 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I couldn't believe how Miyazaki the book was; I don't believe there has been a story so perfectly suited to being on his movies... So yeah, am a bit disappointed he decided to stray, but then again... Whole new story to get into.

And the hell with dubs - will be on the lookout for fansubs as soon as the movie's out. :g: Lucky you.

Re: Rumor

[identity profile] lebateleur.livejournal.com 2004-11-01 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I don't see how he could stick to the book exactly: the sarcasm and punnage would take a bit of wrangling to get into Japanese. But all things being equal, I still wish they'd tried to do it;)

[identity profile] nightfallrising.livejournal.com 2004-11-18 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
(determinedly optimistic)

Although broom closets are more Sophie's style than fields, I seem to remember that she wasn't above a good cry or two in the book.

And as for Howl, we may feel better if we keep in mind that the setting goes from modern-day Wales to a sort of late-Victorian countryside setting, where people were adults a lot younger than they are now. -vOv- (hasn't seen the preview and is going to feel silly if he ends up looking twelve)

Another reason to be hopeful is, Wynne-Jones just doesn't leave a lot of room for other people's crack.